Listening to the day by day roundup right here as a part of the fact, Steve podcast. I’m your host actuality. Steve. Thanks all for tuning in on this Friday episode. We’re going to speak slightly bit about yesterday’s podcast with Megan Fox because it relates slightly bit to what’s happening on Jen season. I’ve received a evaluate of the Hulu documentary teased it a few weeks in the past.
It’s known as brats. It’s in regards to the Brack pack from the eighties. It’s directed by Andrew McCarthy. The place he mainly went round and interviewed most people that have been within the brat pack. There have been two folks that have been ignored and we’ve got causes as to why they have been. I’ll get to that. And in addition Jason Tardik, whereas he onerous launched two days in the past along with his new girlfriend, Kat Stickler, he had a publish final night time, really Kat made a publish final night time with regard to one thing that occurred.
Very early on of their relationship. I’ve received ideas on that. We’ll get to all that momentarily. So I needed to begin out with this and that’s, I hope you listened to podcast quantity three 95 yesterday, the weekly podcast with writer, journalist and YouTuber Megan Fox speaking in regards to the Clayton Eckerd and Laura Owens case.
As a result of there is part of it that type of pertains to Jen season. And it was within the very starting the place. Megan made it very clear that her emotions in direction of the me too motion. She simply mentioned, look, I’ve no points with ladies coming ahead saying this occurred to them and this occurred to them. What I do have a difficulty with is individuals simply instantly believing them as a result of of their intercourse.
Simply because they have been feminine, they have been robotically being believed and so they have been ruining males’s lives. She mentioned, I’m all for them coming ahead. I simply wish to be slightly extra clear and make the whole lot slightly bit extra particular person and say, okay, let’s see the proof as a result of she’s all about ladies giving false allegations.
It’s what her e book was about ladies who give false allegations in opposition to individuals. So when she talked about that, it was actually fascinating to me as a result of, you realize, I’ve, I’ve hinted in direction of this for the reason that starting of Jen’s season. However I haven’t gotten into element on it and I don’t assume I’m gonna go into element on it due to this actual motive that Megan Fox talks about.
Look, I’m very properly conscious of what’s being mentioned about sure males on GenSeason on-line. I’ve heard all of it. I’ve heard each single story. Among the individuals which are saying these tales I do know their names to. Some I don’t even know their names. And I perceive that they’re bothered by the truth that among the males on Jen’s season are going to be getting consideration.
I completely get that. Drawback I’m having is each single story that I’ve heard negatively about certainly one of Jen’s males has not been supported by any proof. As a result of anyone can say that is what occurred to me. And as Megan mentioned, okay, now let’s dive into this. The place’s the proof? And I’m not saying these ladies which are saying this stuff about Jen’s males are mendacity.
I’m simply not saying I’m instantly going to name these guys responsible, which plenty of the web, 95 % of them, aka Reddit, has already convicted these guys within the courtroom of public opinion that they’re useless to them. They’ll’t watch this season, all these things. It’s similar to, What’s your subject? What’s your downside?
How about you really get some information earlier than making that call? I do know they’ve a tough time with nuanced conversations as a result of the whole lot within the Reddit world is so black and white. There’s no grey space with something. It’s simply, should hate this or love this. Must hate this contestant or love this contestant.
The underside line is, not one of the folks that have shaped an opinion on any of Jen’s males have seen any proof of something. They’ve heard tales. However what proof has backed up these tales? And perhaps there isn’t proof. Possibly there isn’t. However what I’m saying is, I don’t assume we ought to be convicting individuals, males or ladies, within the courtroom of public opinion, earlier than proof is on the market.
We get this each season. There’s unfavorable tales each single season on contestants. And for the longest time, I, me, Actuality Steve, Steve Carbone, was the largest purveyor of this. I used to be relaying tales that I used to be being advised info with out on the lookout for proof. Typically I did have proof, however proof would quit a supply.
So I might simply nonetheless be the center particular person and run with the story. I don’t try this anymore. Now it’s okay. You’ve received this to say about this contestant, man or girl, fantastic. You place your title behind it otherwise you show with proof, after which I’ll provide the platform. I’ve no downside giving the platform, the quantity of platforms I’ve given to ladies on this franchise, and even in simply actuality TV, TV on the whole to talk up, I feel speaks for itself.
Meredith Phillips, Bachelorette, Season 2, got here on my podcast and for the primary time publicly talked about being sexually assaulted and gave examples of what occurred. You already know, Nicole Kahn, the Coming Out for Love collaboration selling LGBTQ. I let Craig Robinson converse. On suicide after which Alcoholics Nameless and the place he was at with that.
Ali Appleby, Miss Teen Dallas, talking about being autistic, having a service canine and successful Miss Teen Dallas. In 2023, or was it 2022 that I did that? I feel it was 2022. I gave Kelsey and Beth Kelsey, the one which was Nate. I can’t bear in mind his final title off the highest of my head. Nate’s ex girlfriend who Nate by no means even advised in 18 months that he was relationship her.
I’ve a daughter. Nicely, Steve, he was in all probability simply hooking up together with her. No, no, no, no. They dated for 18 months. And I mentioned, Kelsey, I want proof of this. Tremendous. Steve. She despatched me a Google drive the place she actually gave me two An album of like 35 photos and labeled the dates of when the whole lot occurred of their relationship.
That’s the type of stuff I’m speaking about. Beth got here ahead and talked about her tales with Aaron Clancy after the whole lot that occurred with Aaron Clancy and Genevieve on bachelor in paradise, giving these ladies a voice of their dealings with bachelor guys. Taylor Hale winner of huge brother, 24, sharing her sexual assault story publicly for the primary time on my podcast, Cassidy Timbrooks approaching my podcast, speaking about her sobriety.
I imply, these are simply off the highest of my head. I do know I’ve had different individuals on that I’ve allowed to share their story. And that is the type of factor that I’m speaking about. I’ve no downside giving individuals the platform for the longest time. I didn’t for the longest time I used to be the intermediary and I used to be the one taking bullets for different individuals.
And I used to be the one which mentioned, properly, this man’s an asshole as a result of I heard he did this. Now, generally I did have proof. However I couldn’t share it. Typically I didn’t have proof. Clearly the largest remorse I ever have within the historical past of doing this actuality, Steve was the Jenna Cooper story. Simply tried to vet it, thought what I vetted was actual and ended up not being.
In order that’s what I imply. I really feel like in 2024, we all know this it’s very straightforward to only go surfing as a result of there’s so many issues that may be mentioned on-line and folks cannot put a reputation or a face behind it and simply say one thing that would completely spoil any person else. And I feel we’ve got to be slightly extra cautious, slightly extra cautious once we do stuff like that, since you are screwing with individuals’s lives.
While you come out and say that I’ve given each one that has come ahead to me about Jen’s guys, and you realize, which of them I’m speaking about this season to talk their fact. Both privately to me, so I no less than know what’s happening and no less than know the total story, or giving them a public platform to say, Right here’s who I’m, that is how I do know this man, right here’s what occurred, and right here’s some proof of it.
There may be somebody on the market claiming one thing that they completely might have proof of, and but I’ve but to see it. And it’s a really harsh accusation to make in opposition to any person While you would have proof for one thing like this, but you’re refusing to share it. Black out your title, black out no matter pertinent info can be on that specific piece of paper.
That will assist your story, however they don’t wish to say something. It’s like, I get it, as a result of they know they’ll be heckled by the viewers, particularly if any of those males on GenSeason are given a superb edit. I perceive it. I’m very properly conscious. I’ve had quite a few ladies since I modified over to doing this come to me and say, I wish to discuss this man.
No, this man’s dangerous information. And the second I say, okay, I’ll provide the platform to speak, present your, you realize, mainly present your work, present some proof, present some receipts. 24 hours later, they all the time come again and say, yeah, the extra I thought of it, I simply don’t wish to get entangled. You already know, are you able to, are you able to say this?
No, I can’t. That’s what I imply. They’re out to spoil another person’s life, however they don’t wish to be part of it. They only wish to be the drive by. And so they have been utilizing me because the drive by for years. And sadly, I took that function. Not anymore. So, come to say this. I feel that we will get to a spot the place I’ve completely no downside giving individuals a platform.
And if we wish to discuss Jen’s males, by all means, let’s discuss it. However you bought to come back ahead. You bought to place your title behind it and you bought to supply receipts, simply driving by and throwing out accusations, which can be true, however these days, I’m simply not robotically going to convict these guys within the courtroom of public opinion as a result of somebody mentioned they did one thing.
Sadly, plenty of different individuals are doing that. I feel it’s flawed. It’s podcast is dropped at you by tropical smoothie cafe, tropical smoothie cafe believes you deserve slightly vacay day by day. Not simply annually, one chunk of the tropical bowls from the tropical smoothie cafe, and also you’ll immediately really feel such as you’re Cabana facet.
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